Tapping notes

[Nathaniel607]

Help>Keys has most or all of the keyboard controls. If you use the + and - keys on a keypad, it will control the zoom. You must use the other + and - keys to control the AV delay, or edit it in the settings menu instead.

With the newest version of EOF, the sound cues are mixed into the song's audio during playback, so it should be theoretically de-sync proof. Even if the audio playback stutters, the cues are already mixed in and will play correctly. The graphics can still get desynced, but that was always a liability and why I recommend audio cues, especially now.

The best way to set up the AV delay is to take a known good chart (as in good sync), such as a Rock Band chart, load it into EOF, turn on clapping and make sure the clap occurs when the note is reached. Changing some settings such as the buffer size could alter the sync, so such changes mean you may want to adjust the AV delay as necessary.

Regarding the tutorial, please feel free to go through it and point out any parts that seem outdated or deficient. I'll try to help update it.

Oh, thanks, that may be why my charts always seem a tiny bit off synch... might just be me though...

The outdated part was my fault. I thought the keys had changed (cos all "+" and "-" did for me was zoom...), but that was just because I was using the keypad... speaking of, how was I supposed to know that, lol? Update that.

[raynebc]

The Help>Keys window doesn't talk much about the difference between the two sets of + and - keys, but it mentions that the ones on the numpad are used for controlling the zoom. If there is a section in the tutorial that doesn't specify numpad accordingly, please let me know.

[jii35]

Would it be possible that "tapping notes" would be an option in FoFiX? What I meaning with this:

1. You got song which have guitar solo -parts.
2. When the guitar solo -part comes ingame, the "tapping notes" would be activated.

Final score would then show, if "tapping notes" was on or off.
This would be frigging cool, solos would easier but more fun to play!

[stashincash06]

Im not talking abut the eof option. im talking about PURPLE NOTES. where all you have to do is tap the button.

YES they would do good in FoFiX if handled properly. FeedBack would need an option to make a section of purple notes.

noooo it wouldnt it shouldbe

it could be an option to change the guitar solo to use it...

for rb themes u cud turn it off...

and for gh themes u coul turn it on....

so whever s come the notes would be the transparent notes....

[death_au]

for rb themes you could turn it off...

and for gh themes you could turn it on....

Really? I could've sworn Rock Band had tapping solos too... (albeit forcing you to use the solo buttons)

[NBSRDan]

for rb themes you could turn it off...

and for gh themes you could turn it on....

Really? I could've sworn Rock Band had tapping solos too... (albeit forcing you to use the solo buttons)

Rock Band never forces you to use the 'tapping' buttons.* You can always use both sets of buttons, and with the smaller buttons you can always hit hammer-ons even if you missed one and didn't strum again.

*except in Surfing With the Alien.

[BillTaylor]

You can already tap notes, but only with a GHWT guitar with the slider, edit the controller and put it on analog slide guitar and map the orange slide key to analog slide, and you can tap any note in the song

[jii35]

Are u now speaking of the newest FoFiX??? But it would be cooler and more simple, that "tapping notes" would be an on/off option in FoFiX.
And would ONLY activate in solo sections.

[NBSRDan]

Are u now speaking of the newest FoFiX??? But it would be cooler and more simple, that "tapping notes" would be an on/off option in FoFiX.
And would ONLY activate in solo sections.

Or better yet, multiple options in a "Tap HO/PO after miss" setting: Off > Solos > Buttons > Solos & Buttons > Always, with a slight score reduction for each space away from "Off" it's set.

[BillTaylor]

Are u now speaking of the newest FoFiX??? But it would be cooler and more simple, that "tapping notes" would be an on/off option in FoFiX.
And would ONLY activate in solo sections.

yes i am, and this thing with the controller can't be more simple, it pushes the fret and auto-strums (except chords). and it's so easy to map it: instead of [Standard Guitar] use [Analog Slide Guitar] and map the orange slider button to the analog slider and voila

[jii35]

Oh man, then i must have to get one of those guitars! I dont know how I have managed to survive with my keyboard this far anyway

[Naemesis]

JamLegend supports this. Just pick a song -> guitar -> tap

[ryanpanties]

YES they would do good in FoFiX if handled properly. FeedBack would need an option to make a section of purple notes.

Feedback will NEVER get this option, as it is abandoned software; it's not being updated.

Move to EoF. It's better anyways.

I still think Feedback is the far superior editor for basic guitar/drum charting, simply because it makes you find correct tempo as bpm rather than relying on point-and-click syncing. You're definitely correct in saying that db is extremely unlikely to see new features, but with that said, I'm tired of hearing people talk like lack of support for a feature in Feedback is a reason to hold back on implementing something in FOF. There are options for someone that shares my preference to add something more fully-featured to a song:
1) initial charting in db, then additional features in EOF
2) initial charting in db, then additional features in a midi editor

Additionally, it's possible that further support could be added into a chart>midi converter, which is a necessary step anyhow. You could mark any number of additional features into Feedback as text events if a chart2midi converter translated them into the proper midi format. For an example as applicable to this topic, notes corresponding with event "tap" could be marked or moved in accordance with whatever standard is chosen for the midi, rather than translated to midi events.

[Nathaniel607]

YES they would do good in FoFiX if handled properly. FeedBack would need an option to make a section of purple notes.

Feedback will NEVER get this option, as it is abandoned software; it's not being updated.

Move to EoF. It's better anyways.

I still think Feedback is the far superior editor for basic guitar/drum charting, simply because it makes you find correct tempo as bpm rather than relying on point-and-click syncing. You're definitely correct in saying that db is extremely unlikely to see new features, but with that said, I'm tired of hearing people talk like lack of support for a feature in Feedback is a reason to hold back on implementing something in FOF. There are options for someone that shares my preference to add something more fully-featured to a song:
1) initial charting in db, then additional features in EOF
2) initial charting in db, then additional features in a midi editor

Additionally, it's possible that further support could be added into a chart>midi converter, which is a necessary step anyhow. You could mark any number of additional features into Feedback as text events if a chart2midi converter translated them into the proper midi format. For an example as applicable to this topic, notes corresponding with event "tap" could be marked or moved in accordance with whatever standard is chosen for the midi, rather than translated to midi events.

If you ARE saying what I think you're saying here;

I still think Feedback is the far superior editor for basic guitar/drum charting, simply because it makes you find correct tempo as bpm rather than relying on point-and-click syncing.

Then you are VERY SILLY.

Are you saying feedback is better as it allows you to find the BMP? Imput it? Use that without using anchors?

You can do that in EoF too. I don't know WHERE you got those ideas.

[ryanpanties]

I can't exactly make sense of what you are trying to communicate in your response, but I assure you I've created multiple songs in EOF and am familiar with how it works. I understand the role anchors play and how to properly sync a song in either EOF or db. I prefer the Feedback approach to sync because it doesn't allow for point-and-click guesstimates (syncing-by-mouse), instead requiring that you understand music theory and tempos sufficiently to pick the proper bpm value numerically. Also, I find that mouse-less software is far more time-efficient in the long run.

I got my ideas from charting multiple songs in multiple editors, and didn't say anything to imply that EOF didn't use bpm, anything about anchors, or anything about "Imput".