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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby Inapprope » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:01 pm

Electro Tomato wrote:HARMONIX:
Lego Rock Band


LRB is being developed by Traveller's Tales.

You also forgot to mention various other games currently in development as part of the GH series.

Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Band Hero
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As well as various other mobile spinoffs. (If they count)
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby RedShadow » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:57 pm

aduro wrote:
Rapt0r wrote:I didn't say they were on the same level. I'm just saying, this is what all companies do when they have something that is a hit. Look at the Final Fantasy series. There are 23089408923423 different Final Fantasy games, each with minor differences, and several remakes yet no one complains that they are milking the series.


lool what a terrible example, final fantasy fanbase is quite possibly the worst for any game ever


Fans?! The important thing here is that the company is not making any effort on bringing new stuff, they are just like Activision and Harmonix, Milking franchises...
Maybe making an effort they could get even more people, but they aren't trying, so fans don't have much to do here...
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby amak11 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:22 pm

Wasn't this thread started about the charts.

Like jesus. Everyone has thier own opinions about MTV Games(harmonix) and Activision. I honestly think if MTV games didn't buy harmonix that guitar hero would have had drums and vocals earlier. In my opinion they are both money robbing dip **** who don't give a **** for the consumer but themselves. Harmonix may release 7 songs a week, but what the **** you pay $2 a download, that adds up. for every 40 songs harmonix makes, Neversoft makes 60+ in their games with DLC( minus GHSH of course) and you only pay $60-$80 for the game. Track packs are useless unless you got 35 dollars lying around. All you people whine and **** about " harmonix did this" and "neversoft did that". Also Hamonix and Neversoft get paid by their publishers not through sales revenue. Most of what they get are royalties (so to speak).


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Guitar Hero 2*
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So this is not the reason people dislike neversoft and like hamonix. Its because GH3 failed to deliver what RB had. That is where the fork in the road was stuck. GHWT was a first attempt at a full band game. Which wasn't too bad. They partnered with RedOctane to create decent quailty instruments. Then they realeased GH Metallica which was better. I am getting tired of useless bash posting.

*Anything i said was not bashing, just stating the obvious*
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby vedicardi » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:36 pm

lol you have no idea what you're talking about and you are stating incredibly obvious things.

you pay $2 a download, that adds up


This is the best line out of your entire incredibly pointless "rant"

As if there is only one reason why people don't like activision lol
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby RedShadow » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:38 pm

I liked the song selection in GHIII better than the song selection in RB1 setlist...
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Postby vedicardi » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:47 pm

Why post that
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby RedShadow » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 pm

amak11 wrote:So this is not the reason people dislike neversoft and like hamonix. Its because GH3 failed to deliver what RB had.


Thats the reason, anyway this time there was no "previous post alarm"
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Postby vedicardi » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:16 pm

Might as well just lock this thread now. It gets worse with every post.
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby aduro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:21 pm

amak11 wrote:Wasn't this thread started about the charts.

Like jesus. Everyone has thier own opinions about MTV Games(harmonix) and Activision. I honestly think if MTV games didn't buy harmonix that guitar hero would have had drums and vocals earlier.

Harmonix left Activision because they didn't want to continue the Guitar Hero franchise and instead wanted to make something completely different, you don't know what you are talking about
In my opinion they are both money robbing dip **** who don't give a **** for the consumer but themselves. Harmonix may release 7 songs a week, but what the **** you pay $2 a download, that adds up. for every 40 songs harmonix makes, Neversoft makes 60+ in their games with DLC( minus GHSH of course) and you only pay $60-$80 for the game. Track packs are useless unless you got 35 dollars lying around. All you people whine and **** about " harmonix did this" and "neversoft did that". Also Hamonix and Neversoft get paid by their publishers not through sales revenue. Most of what they get are royalties (so to speak).


Yeah micropayments suck but are you seriously saying you'd rather buy tons of $60 expansion packs than pick out individual songs? And you're totally ignoring the fact that GHWT gets regular DLC as well? What the hell is wrong with you?

releasing large amounts of new content on a weekly schedule: harmonix's slogan "WE LOVE TO SCREW THE CONSUMER"


So this is not the reason people dislike neversoft and like hamonix. Its because GH3 failed to deliver what RB had. That is where the fork in the road was stuck. GHWT was a first attempt at a full band game. Which wasn't too bad.

Tons of people preferred GH3 to GHWT, GHWT was an awful mess with too many terrible design decisions to count.
They partnered with RedOctane to create decent quailty instruments. Then they realeased GH Metallica which was better. I am getting tired of useless bash posting.

Activision owns redoctane, all official GH instruments ever have been made by Redoctane.

You may have preferred GH:M to GHWT, but I think that mostly depends on your taste of music. In my opinion the charts where not especially better (four note chord is very comparable to 5 note chord in GH:SH It's the same stupid **** that should never be charted) and the songs were repetitive and way too long

Either way GH:S.HITS is a huge step backwards. It's got the same godawful interface, the worst charts of any game in the series, and if you buy this cash-in schlock you YOU ARE THE PROBLEM HEY **** YOU
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby aander91 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:33 pm

Alright, I'm destroying this post.

Wasn't this thread started about the charts.


But it was a thread about the game and when you buy the game you pay for the charts and the engine mostly, so this thread definitely=chart discussion.

Like jesus.


Like no.

Everyone has thier own opinions about MTV Games(harmonix) and Activision.


And the general KNOWLEDGEABLE fan base chooses HMX over Nevervisionox. (Hells yea!)

I honestly think if MTV games didn't buy harmonix that guitar hero would have had drums and vocals earlier.


I doubt that it would've come along as quickly, but in any case, if they were to do it, can you imagine a FULL BAND engine created SOLELY BY NEVERSOFT? It would've been complete ****. Honestly tell me that they could do a good job with it. Even with Harmonix's past developments as a crutch, they still fail to provide even decent innovations. Seriously, no one in their right mind uses the slider bar for solos, it's annoying to have to hold the controller when your singing, and most people just find open sturms to be an annoyance. Also, I'd hate to think of what they'd do with their drum charts.

In my opinion they are both money robbing dip **** who don't give a **** for the consumer but themselves. Harmonix may release 7 songs a week, but what the **** you pay $2 a download, that adds up.


This is such ****. This is just you being a Nevervision fan boy and not seeing sense. GAMES=MONEY. Companies WANT a profit, this is why they are created. Now lets look at economics, shall we?

COMPANY A sells a unique product, the product is in high demand.

COMPANY B comes along and starts selling the same product.

COMPETITION HAPPENS.

Now competition yields two possible things. Either the companies increase QUALITY or QUANTITY.

COMPANY A increases QUALITY while COMPANY B increases QUANTITY.

But this is digital media, so clearly, both can happen.

HMX provides solid, varied DLC every week, while NS provides extremely biased developer favorites with some not so stellar chordfests at occasional periods with some famous band packs thrown in every once in a while.

The prices are the same sir, and I fail to see why you would choose to invest in a game with a handful of similar DLC (srsly, EU PACK 6? Does anyone actually buy those?!) over a game with +500 DLC, an impeccable variety, and solidly accurate charting. (And a far, far better engine IMO.)


for every 40 songs harmonix makes, Neversoft makes 60+ in their games with DLC( minus GHSH of course) and you only pay $60-$80 for the game.


This just proves my point which means that you fail at debating. Also, if that were the case, we'd have even MORE reason to bash NS.

40 DLC= about 6 weeks (less than a month and a half)

So if NS is really releasing games THAT FAST, then I would have even more evidence to put forth in my argument.

Also, you can see that the quality is lacking. I for one loved GH:M, but that's not saying that it wasn't perfect. In fact, the first thing people usually say once they realize that they like it is something like "This is what GH:WT should have been."

Track packs are useless unless you got 35 dollars lying around. All you people whine and **** about " harmonix did this" and "neversoft did that".


Why $35? Oh, you mean GH3 DLC, don't you. Also, people can whine, or they can debate and put facts up. All I've seen you do is do just that and attempt the latter.


Also Hamonix and Neversoft get paid by their publishers not through sales revenue. Most of what they get are royalties (so to speak).


So what you're saying is that they get paid less than we think, and we STILL get higher quality material from HMX?


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Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2*
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80's
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Rock Band Unplugged
The Beatles: Rock Band
Lego Rock Band

NEVERSOFT:
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero Metallica
Guitar Hero 5

VICARIOUS VISIONS:
Guitar Hero 2 (Wii)
Guitar Hero: On Tour
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (Wii)
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades


So this is not the reason people dislike neversoft and like hamonix. Its because GH3 failed to deliver what RB had. That is where the fork in the road was stuck.


Hardly. GH3 had something that no game has offered yet. Crazy as hell charts and a hitwindow that could manage it. But RB had something more, and entirely new game experience on the same disc. Two more actually. And it was even further expandable with WEEKLY DLC.

Here's the rundown:

GH:
Hard Charts
DLC
$6.75(?)
Occasionally

RB:
DRUMS!
VOCALS!
DLC
$2 or $ 5.50
EVERY WEEK

Make your choice, and take note, that RB eventually got the same amount of difficulty, if not harder (due to the engine, really) charts later on.

GHWT was a first attempt at a full band game. Which wasn't too bad.


I deg to differ. I've even been playing it a lot lately, my RB disc is scratched to hell and I can't play it, so I'm stuck with GH:WT.

I've SERIOUSLY tried to get my money's worth from that game, by pouring eve MORE money into it. I bought all the Jimi Hendrix Packs and a few other tidbits, and I STILL hardly play it. I've got all the free stuff too, and the only one worth keeping is that Protoshredanoid, which is ruined by the ruthless use of those damn slider notes. It'd be a fun song to play if it weren't for that, but there's another thing. The hitwindow is the stupidest thing I've ever had the misfortune to play on. It has a HUGE back, while it has NO FRONT. You do realize that that means that they want you to intentionally hit it late?! They want you to miss! You HIT the note by MISSING. Tell me the sense behind that.

They partnered with RedOctane to create decent quailty instruments.


Fail once again. The Les Paul is widely considered to be the faultiest of all official instruments with the WT Drum Set as the runner up. Buttons not responding, Cymbals falling off, Pads not responding, strum dying.

Then they realeased GH Metallica which was better.


I agree, but they should have perfected their innovations on GH:WT. Now all my DLC has to be played in the faulty engine.

I am getting tired of useless bash posting.


They are fanboys who will never understand and have chosen that fate.

That is all.
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Re: this is a reason to get Guitar Hero Smash Hits

Postby Maartah » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:47 am

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Postby felixdaman18 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:05 am

amak11 wrote:but what the **** you pay $2 a download, that adds up.

Just pay for packs, they're cheaper than buying individually. Usually the packs are from the same artists or same genre so many people like the whole pack and don't waste money. GH:WT DLC is more expensive anyways.(One time the pack was more expensive than buying the songs individually, I saw it on ScoreHero announcements) You don't really prove a point. Also, you're not forced to pay for the DLC. Track packs are much better than those guitar hero crap that they're shoving up our throats because they're exportable. GH:WT DLC isn't even exportable for any of the other games except for GH5. Seriously, wtf?
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Postby estemshorn » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:35 am

The only stupid thing about the raining blood chart is that the last note (the 5 note chord) is star power.
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Postby klorjne » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 am

estemshorn wrote:The only stupid thing about the raining blood chart is that the last note (the 5 note chord) is star power.

and that it's a FIVE NOTE CHORD
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Postby aander91 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:08 am

klorjne wrote:
estemshorn wrote:The only stupid thing about the raining blood chart is that the last note (the 5 note chord) is star power.

and that it's a FIVE NOTE CHORD


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