Alright, I'm destroying this post.
Wasn't this thread started about the charts.
But it was a thread about the game and when you buy the game you pay for the charts and the engine mostly, so this thread definitely=chart discussion.
Like jesus.
Like no.
Everyone has thier own opinions about MTV Games(harmonix) and Activision.
And the general KNOWLEDGEABLE fan base chooses HMX over Nevervisionox. (Hells yea!)
I honestly think if MTV games didn't buy harmonix that guitar hero would have had drums and vocals earlier.
I doubt that it would've come along as quickly, but in any case, if they were to do it, can you imagine a FULL BAND engine created SOLELY BY NEVERSOFT? It would've been complete ****. Honestly tell me that they could do a good job with it. Even with Harmonix's past developments as a crutch, they still fail to provide even decent innovations. Seriously, no one in their right mind uses the slider bar for solos, it's annoying to have to hold the controller when your singing, and most people just find open sturms to be an annoyance. Also, I'd hate to think of what they'd do with their drum charts.
In my opinion they are both money robbing dip **** who don't give a **** for the consumer but themselves. Harmonix may release 7 songs a week, but what the **** you pay $2 a download, that adds up.
This is such ****. This is just you being a Nevervision fan boy and not seeing sense. GAMES=MONEY. Companies WANT a profit, this is why they are created. Now lets look at economics, shall we?
COMPANY A sells a unique product, the product is in high demand.
COMPANY B comes along and starts selling the same product.
COMPETITION HAPPENS.
Now competition yields two possible things. Either the companies increase QUALITY or QUANTITY.
COMPANY A increases QUALITY while COMPANY B increases QUANTITY.
But this is digital media, so clearly, both can happen.
HMX provides solid, varied DLC every week, while NS provides extremely biased developer favorites with some not so stellar chordfests at occasional periods with some famous band packs thrown in every once in a while.
The prices are the same sir, and I fail to see why you would choose to invest in a game with a handful of similar DLC (srsly, EU PACK 6? Does anyone actually buy those?!) over a game with +500 DLC, an impeccable variety, and solidly accurate charting. (And a far, far better engine IMO.)
for every 40 songs harmonix makes, Neversoft makes 60+ in their games with DLC( minus GHSH of course) and you only pay $60-$80 for the game.
This just proves my point which means that you fail at debating. Also, if that were the case, we'd have even MORE reason to bash NS.
40 DLC= about 6 weeks (less than a month and a half)
So if NS is really releasing games THAT FAST, then I would have even more evidence to put forth in my argument.
Also, you can see that the quality is lacking. I for one loved GH:M, but that's not saying that it wasn't perfect. In fact, the first thing people usually say once they realize that they like it is something like "This is what GH:WT should have been."
Track packs are useless unless you got 35 dollars lying around. All you people whine and **** about " harmonix did this" and "neversoft did that".
Why $35? Oh, you mean GH3 DLC, don't you. Also, people can whine, or they can debate and put facts up. All I've seen you do is do just that and attempt the latter.
Also Hamonix and Neversoft get paid by their publishers not through sales revenue. Most of what they get are royalties (so to speak).
So what you're saying is that they get paid less than we think, and we STILL get higher quality material from HMX?
Electro Tomato wrote:HARMONIX:
Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2*
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80's
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Rock Band Unplugged
The Beatles: Rock Band
Lego Rock Band
NEVERSOFT:
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero Metallica
Guitar Hero 5
VICARIOUS VISIONS:
Guitar Hero 2 (Wii)
Guitar Hero: On Tour
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (Wii)
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades
So this is not the reason people dislike neversoft and like hamonix. Its because GH3 failed to deliver what RB had. That is where the fork in the road was stuck.
Hardly. GH3 had something that no game has offered yet. Crazy as hell charts and a hitwindow that could manage it. But RB had something more, and entirely new game experience on the same disc. Two more actually. And it was even further expandable with WEEKLY DLC.
Here's the rundown:
GH:
Hard Charts
DLC
$6.75(?)
Occasionally
RB:
DRUMS!
VOCALS!
DLC
$2 or $ 5.50
EVERY WEEK
Make your choice, and take note, that RB eventually got the same amount of difficulty, if not harder (due to the engine, really) charts later on.
GHWT was a first attempt at a full band game. Which wasn't too bad.
I deg to differ. I've even been playing it a lot lately, my RB disc is scratched to hell and I can't play it, so I'm stuck with GH:WT.
I've SERIOUSLY tried to get my money's worth from that game, by pouring eve MORE money into it. I bought all the Jimi Hendrix Packs and a few other tidbits, and I STILL hardly play it. I've got all the free stuff too, and the only one worth keeping is that Protoshredanoid, which is ruined by the ruthless use of those damn slider notes. It'd be a fun song to play if it weren't for that, but there's another thing. The hitwindow is the stupidest thing I've ever had the misfortune to play on. It has a HUGE back, while it has NO FRONT. You do realize that that means that they want you to
intentionally hit it late?! They want you to miss! You HIT the note by MISSING. Tell me the sense behind that.
They partnered with RedOctane to create decent quailty instruments.
Fail once again. The Les Paul is widely considered to be the faultiest of all official instruments with the WT Drum Set as the runner up. Buttons not responding, Cymbals falling off, Pads not responding, strum dying.
Then they realeased GH Metallica which was better.
I agree, but they should have perfected their innovations on GH:WT. Now all my DLC has to be played in the faulty engine.
I am getting tired of useless bash posting.
They are fanboys who will never understand and have chosen that fate.
That is all.