MFH Mod (FoFiX) 3.0xx (v3.030) (OLD)

[Azzco]

It's a losing effort, guys. Sure you can make it harder and maybe stop 99.99% of would-be cheaters. But I guarantee you won't stop them all, and it only takes one to ruin the world charts. And in the meantime all the thousands of regular players suffer with the limitations. It is a lesson that the entire gaming industry hasn't learned yet in their effort to stop pirates by crippling games. It never stops piracy and only harms the regular guys.

You're being a bit pessimistic. playing with cheaters can be fun as well, I've faced several wall hackers, aimbotters and whatnot in tremulous, but i's so much omore rewarding to actually beat them. :P Besides the scrocharts are not totally unmonitered. :)

I guess the best way to see if someone cheats would be having a go with jurgen, and starpower...

Acrox, didn't the logfile reveal that?
Did you actually check the log come to think of it. you only pasted the traceback not the actual log. there's more than likely a (E) right before the traceback bit.

[acrox999]

I posted the fretsonfire.exe.log yesterday. If you mean fretsonfire.log, here:

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(D) Config.get: game.log_undefined_gets = 1
(D) GameEngine class init (GameEngine.py)...
(D) FoFiX v3.100 alpha (r863) starting up...
(D) pygame version: 1.7.1release
(D) Config.get: video.fps = 119
(D) Config.get: engine.highpriority = False
(D) Config.get: video.show_fps = True
(D) Config.get: game.adv_settings = False
(D) Config.get: quickset.performance = 0
(D) Initializing audio.
(D) Config.get: audio.frequency = 44100
(D) Config.get: audio.bits = 16
(D) Config.get: audio.stereo = True
(D) Config.get: audio.buffersize = 2048
(D) Audio configuration: (44100, -16, 1)
(D) Initializing pygame.mixer & audio system at 44100 Hz.
(D) Initializing video.
(D) Config.get: video.resolution = 1440x900
(D) Config.get: video.fullscreen = True
(D) Config.get: video.multisamples = 8
(D) Config.get: opengl.svgshaders = False
(D) Config.get: game.log_class_inits = 1
(D) Input class init (Input.py)...
(D) Config.get: game.log_class_inits = 1
(D) Controls class init (Player.py)...
(D) Config.get: game.p2_menu_nav = 1
(D) Config.get: game.key_checker_mode = 1
(D) Config.get: game.alt_keys = False
(D) Config.get: player0.key_left = K_LEFT
(D) Config.get: player0.key_right = K_RIGHT
(D) Config.get: player0.key_up = K_UP
(D) Config.get: player0.key_down = K_DOWN
(D) Config.get: player0.key_action1 = K_RETURN
(D) Config.get: player0.key_action2 = K_RSHIFT
(D) Config.get: player0.key_1 = 49
(D) Config.get: player0.key_2 = 50
(D) Config.get: player0.key_3 = 51
(D) Config.get: player0.key_4 = 52
(D) Config.get: player0.key_5 = 53
(D) Config.get: player0.key_cancel = K_ESCAPE
(D) Config.get: player0.key_star = 305
(D) Config.get: player0.key_kill = 8
(D) Config.get: player0.key_bass = K_SPACE
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum1a = 97
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum2a = 115
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum3a = 117
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum4a = 105
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum1b = 113
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum2b = 119
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum3b = 106
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum4b = 107
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum_up = K_UP
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum_down = K_DOWN
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum_left = K_LEFT
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum_right = K_RIGHT
(D) Config.get: player0.key_drum_cancel = K_ESCAPE
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_action1 = K_DELETE
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_action2 = K_INSERT
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_1 = K_F8
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_2 = K_F9
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_3 = K_F10
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_4 = K_F11
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_5 = K_F12
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_left = K_LEFT
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_right = K_RIGHT
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_up = K_UP
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_down = K_DOWN
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_cancel = K_F7
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_star = K_HOME
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_kill = K_END
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_bass = K_l
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum1a = K_z
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum2a = K_d
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum3a = K_g
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum4a = 114
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum1b = K_x
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum2b = K_f
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum3b = K_h
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum4b = 111
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum_up = K_UP
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum_down = K_DOWN
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum_left = K_LEFT
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum_right = K_RIGHT
(D) Config.get: player1.player_2_key_drum_cancel = K_ESCAPE
(D) 0 joysticks found.
(W) Config key game.base_library not defined while reading fretsonfire.ini.
(D) Config.get: game.base_library = C:\Users\Hakim\Documents\Downloads\Frets On Fire Tools\FoFiX ALPHA\data
(D) Config.get: game.log_loadings = 1
(D) Config.get: mods.mod_Cassettes = False
(D) Config.get: mods.mod_Guitar Cases = False
(D) Config.get: mods.mod_Low Poly CD List = False
(D) Config.get: mods.mod_MegaLight RB Notes = False
(D) Config.get: mods.mod_NotesRB = True
(D) Config.get: game.log_ini_reads = 0
(D) Data class init (Data.py)...
(N) Loading Data.star1 synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.star1 in 0.063 seconds
(N) Loading Data.star2 synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.star2 in 0.019 seconds
(N) Loading Data.star3 synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.star3 in 0.011 seconds
(N) Loading Data.star4 synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.star4 in 0.084 seconds
(N) Loading Data.left synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.left in 0.033 seconds
(N) Loading Data.right synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.right in 0.112 seconds
(N) Loading Data.loadingImage synchronously
(N) Loaded Data.loadingImage in 0.000 seconds


[death_au]

• The guitar menu-navigation is off for me. Both strums go in the same direction (Up I think).

What kind of guitar are you using and how are you setting the controls? It might be somthing to do with how the controller registers strumming...

• I don't see how "No failing" should be a cheat. It's not like my score will be any higher just because I can't fail.

I agree.
If I may weigh in on the cheating/scoring debate... I agree with MFH in that socres should go back to normal for now. I also think there should be different levels of cheating. Any involvement with Jurgen should prevent a high score IMO, but as for other settings like hitwindow and HOPO settings, perhaps the information about the settings should be somehow stored with the score (like number of notes hit currently is) and sent to the world chart. The world chart would then have to be expanded to somehow display this information, perhaps with different rule filters or something.
There will always be the possibility of cheaters who modify the code to be able to cheat, but preventing other forms of cheating would be the main goal.
I'm reminded of the PC rhythm game Osu! which has certain "mods" that confer multipliers on the score (if it makes it more difficult it gets multiplied by >1, or if it's easier then <1) as well as some "unranked" modes. But then it would be a matter of coming up with a fair scoring system based on those multipliers.
Anyway,

• Will World Tour drumroll style notes be added?

FoFiX issue 416

[Azzco]

Hey now that you mention it there's some flags that are a bit unclear in scores_ext, like hopo used and such (read more in the score chart howto and listing thread). Maybe it's better to let the score charts handle all this?

As death_au said, different settings could change the score a bit, like using gh2 sloppy would reduce score by 5% or so.. Well anyways just a suggestion (not the 5% bit..)

[acrox999]

try saving the problem files as interlaced then open them back up and save them again as non interlaced

I don't know what files it is. I modified all graphics.

Still the same.

[Distractor]

this mod makes my song sound like squirrels, how do i fix it?

[lvl4573r]

this mod makes my song sound like squirrels, how do i fix it?

stop playing songs by Alvin and the Chipmunks

[holystoneH]

this mod makes my song sound like squirrels, how do i fix it?

look the sample rate of the songs that sounds bad if it is 44100 stereo

[hannon]

reading everything posted about the cheating and stuff, ya know if your a good player and a good fretter then you shouldn't need the cheats, shouldn't need any cheats for anything, play for fun, don't play just to show off, we know if your cheating, we always know if someone is cheating.....

EDIT: the no fail cheat is there for people that WANT to learn to play song and keep playing it, its not there for people to randomly strum along to their favorite cat scratchings

[Thomas Mink]

EDIT: the no fail cheat is there for people that WANT to learn to play song and keep playing it, its not there for people to randomly strum along to their favorite cat scratchings

Well the first time that I got it / I was just 10 year old / I got it from some kitty next door / Well I went and seen the doctor / And he gave me the cure / I think I got it some more ... They give me cat scratch fever / Cat scratch fever / I got it bad scratch fever / Cat scratch fever

*strums along and dances*

[MasterPhW]

Hey, first of all, incredible work you've done with FoFiX! I played FoF the last time with an old version (1.2xxx) and the RF mod and you enhanced nearly everything and the whole gameplay is now much better. You brought me finally back to FoF! ;)
But sometimes I have very obscure problems, dunno what I am doing wrong, probably I missed to much in the time between RF-mod and FoFiX...
Like the career mode: I already beat the songs I need to advance and have to beat them twice to unlock the next tier set.
Or I downloaded some other career sets (non GH & RB) and they have problems like only 1 note in the whole song and the countdown doesn't count down... :D (Puppet Hero 1 for example).
Some others have a NIL in the rating... because I always want to see the easiest high score. SO could we set it the lowest difficult, instead of easy? So some of the Nils would dissappear and would be replaced by the medium ones?
Then Another crazy problem: sometimes, and only sometimes, I start a song and at the beginning the preview (auto setting) is still running and after the start countdown the song is going like crazy and only a restart fixes the problem.
The last thing I remember right now, is that the 8Bit Skin always crashes (the one linked at the beginning) my FoFiX Version (3.30).
Keep up the great work, I will donate in a few days!

[hannon]

NIL's mean there is no fretting for that difficulty, you view the scoring of the difficulties by pressing on the fourth fret button, oh sounds like you need to upgrade/ patch and fine tune your options...

[Co2Noss]

Amazing job wth this so far. Info for anyone who is complaining about the new hit windows and HOPO settings. I myself have played with GH2 Sloppy and on the Widest hit window setting, but I have noticed that when I go and play the real game, it's harder for me to hit notes because I am trying to hit them mega early.

Go hit advanced options on the settings and find the setting where you can change the note hit window, the default is set on tight for some reason, set it to normal, and if you usually get a lot of "excellent+ or excellent- or perfect" on your accuracy, then you won't have any problem adjusting to the new anti-cheating methods

[MasterPhW]

NIL's mean there is no fretting for that difficulty, you view the scoring of the difficulties by pressing on the fourth fret button, oh sounds like you need to upgrade/ patch and fine tune your options...

Yeah I know, but I asked for an option, to show only the highscore for the lowest difficult availble (frettable), atm I set it in the options, that it only shows the highscore for the easy difficult, but some songs don't have easy available, so I would prefer to still see my easy highscore, but for songs only with higher difficulties, instead of NIL, the next higher highscore...
Do you understand, what I mean?
There's some more I have to ask:
If a song starts with Overdrive/Starpower notes and I miss the first one I normally restart... but after restarting, the notes are just plain normal one... If I play a litte bit longer and restart again, they are back to its overdrive pendant.
And the last question (I know, there are a lot question, but I missed a lot... sorry): If I have a theme, where all loading messages are missing, is it possible to port the messages from a theme, that already has the messages implemented?
Looking forward for the answers, thx in advance.

[baeleron]

reading everything posted about the cheating and stuff, ya know if your a good player and a good fretter then you shouldn't need the cheats, shouldn't need any cheats for anything, play for fun, don't play just to show off, we know if your cheating, we always know if someone is cheating.....

EDIT: the no fail cheat is there for people that WANT to learn to play song and keep playing it, its not there for people to randomly strum along to their favorite cat scratchings

You're missing the point. It's not about needing to cheat or wanting to show off. It's about freedom to enjoy the game however you choose, and not being forced to conform to someone else's idea of what you should be doing. I'm a pretty crappy player who is never going to be good enough to show off at anyone or care about the world charts. So what? Why should I not be allowed to play it the way I want (actually finish a song on expert without always failing in the solo) and also maintain my own personal local high scores? Don't ruin my fun, man! I'm not hurting anyone!