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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby beebe » Tue May 26, 2009 10:24 pm

I am having a lot of trouble charting drums. Every tab seems so inaccurate!. Personally I'm finding drums to be a heck of a lot harder to chart than guitar...

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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby raynebc » Wed May 27, 2009 1:19 am

Charting drums requires less musical experience, in my opinion it's easier to chart than guitar. There is a sufficiently-finite number of sounds that are made on a typical drum kit that with some practice, tabs won't be necessary at all.
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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby beebe » Sat May 30, 2009 5:29 pm

raynebc wrote:Charting drums requires less musical experience, in my opinion it's easier to chart than guitar. There is a sufficiently-finite number of sounds that are made on a typical drum kit that with some practice, tabs won't be necessary at all.

I agree, however, I use the tabs because I have trouble differentiating between the bass pedal and toms. and yes I know the bass pedal is the lowest note but even still. Also the songs that I want to chart the drums for is stuff like Tool, and Dream Theater, bands with very talented drummers.

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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby Puppetz » Sat May 30, 2009 5:43 pm

beebe wrote:
raynebc wrote:Charting drums requires less musical experience, in my opinion it's easier to chart than guitar. There is a sufficiently-finite number of sounds that are made on a typical drum kit that with some practice, tabs won't be necessary at all.

I agree, however, I use the tabs because I have trouble differentiating between the bass pedal and toms. and yes I know the bass pedal is the lowest note but even still. Also the songs that I want to chart the drums for is stuff like Tool, and Dream Theater, bands with very talented drummers.

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Postby DaBackStabber666 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:50 pm

This helped me so much when I first started fretting, so I'd like to say, Thank you very much Puppetz for everything you have contributed to this forum.
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Postby Tormann71 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:56 pm

raynebc wrote:Charting drums requires less musical experience, in my opinion it's easier to chart than guitar. There is a sufficiently-finite number of sounds that are made on a typical drum kit that with some practice, tabs won't be necessary at all.

Go chart this song then. :biggrin:

Tabs are never(and never have been) necessary for me, guitar or drums. I prefer to ear fret.
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Postby thuggaboo » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:44 pm

hey i added the sections like you do, but when i start FoFiX and go to practice it doesnt say verse 1 or nuthin.

it still says section .25, section .50 etc.

how do i fix this?
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Postby Puppetz » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:26 am

thuggaboo wrote:hey i added the sections like you do, but when i start FoFiX and go to practice it doesnt say verse 1 or nuthin.

it still says section .25, section .50 etc.

how do i fix this?

You pressed "R" in dB and named that place Verse 1 etc.?!?
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Postby Davidrawr » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:06 am

A big thank you to you Puppetz for both of these tutorials. I found a lot of the information here very helpful and have recently moved from EoF to dB (which IMO is much easier and more powerful of a tool). As a result my fretting is a lot more accurate and BPM syncs are almost second nature.

One thing I did notice though is that it seems to be much easier to fret straight from notation and/or tabliture than through FL Studio, which sometimes develops inaccuracies due to bad exportation to midi or from GP, or just bad importing of the midi itself to FL.
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Postby Puppetz » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:18 pm

Davidrawr wrote:One thing I did notice though is that it seems to be much easier to fret straight from notation and/or tabliture than through FL Studio, which sometimes develops inaccuracies due to bad exportation to midi or from GP, or just bad importing of the midi itself to FL.

That depends... the thing you export is the same as you see in GP. But for me it's just a blink of an eye to look in FL, then I know how to chart it...
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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby Vloak » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:50 am

Yo puppetz i just want to know which soft you used for creating the song Mors Certa and The Devil went Down to Finland and if you dont buy it were you download it.


ps: Your fretted song are realy awsome and you doing a very good work.

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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby Puppetz » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:10 am

Vloak wrote:Yo puppetz i just want to know which soft you used for creating the song Mors Certa and The Devil went Down to Finland and if you dont buy it were you download it.


ps: Your fretted song are realy awsome and you doing a very good work.

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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby Vloak » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:51 am

tank you i'll try
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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby blak dog » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:59 am

Wow
Thanks puppetz this showed me how to make songs the good way
Ive made my song The Prophecy by Dream Evil and ive tried to upload it but i cant work out how
I looked at the tutorial but it doesn't seem to work
Can anyone help?
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Re: Advanced Song Tutorial 2 - *Become a Great Fretter*

Postby Davidrawr » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:05 pm

I have a problem for an expert, so I hope you can help here, Puppetz...

dB only supports x/4 time signatures, so how would you handle a song with:

7/8 TS for 2 bars, immediately followed by 3/8 for 1 bar.

It then immediately switches back to 4/4. I've managed to get around it slightly with a 7/4 and 3/4 TS with a greatly increased BPM, but that's not exactly aesthetically pleasing to see. Moreover it means having 8th note HOPOs, which I would rather avoid in this song.

Help here would be very appreciated, so any ideas would be great...

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Nevermind, I figured out a way. For the 7/8 bar I used a 3/4 followed by a 4/4, and for the 3/8 (which was such an ass to get around) I had to use a 1/4 and anchor the second beat, halving its BPM to accomodate a pseudo-3rd beat.
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