"Not an Ogg Vorbis Audio Stream" problem

[akwardmoment]

after about two hours of making a simple song, i was dissapointed by the fact that i cant play it . why you may ask? whenever i go to the song i made in the menu to choose your song, when it begins to load up the preview, then it gives me this lovely message:

Not an Ogg Vorbis Audio Stream

i dont know what to do. i followed the old Audacity/Freetar Hero way of making songs by the post the guy by the username of "Keith" made. i was wondering if anybody would be able to figure out this problem for me. thanks

by the way, heres the link for that post i was talking about:

viewtopic.php?t=1773

[raynebc]

The error itself is saying that your guitar.ogg file is not really a working OGG file. If you upload it and post a download link, somebody here could verify if that's the case. I do hope that you weren't using Freetar Editor though, it is collectively regarded as the worst chart editing program available.

[akwardmoment]

The error itself is saying that your guitar.ogg file is not really a working OGG file. If you upload it and post a download link, somebody here could verify if that's the case. I do hope that you weren't using Freetar Editor though, it is collectively regarded as the worst chart editing program available.

thanks for the answer. i didnt expect anybody would reply. i did use freetar editor, whats so bad about it? its simple, but is F.E. the cause of the sour guitar.ogg file? should i have used the in-game editor instead? i made 2 songs before making the post. each one with the OGG message. i dont think anyone would be able to figure out this mess, but anyway thanks. i will post it, hopefully somebody will help. could the place where i downloaded the song be the problem?

[Asskickulater]

freetar is garbage, use EoF. Problem solved.

[raynebc]

Freetar editor doesn't let you change the tempo at all, only allowing you to set the initial tempo, meaning that it's not even possible to create a properly synced chart for many songs. And even when it is possible, it's very difficult since the editor is very simplistic. If you get into creating custom charts, using Feedback or EOF will be the best way to go. Both programs have a large following, and although Feedback is no longer updated, I usually put out a new beta version of EOF every few weeks so it stays pretty current with new features.

[akwardmoment]

Freetar editor doesn't let you change the tempo at all, only allowing you to set the initial tempo, meaning that it's not even possible to create a properly synced chart for many songs. And even when it is possible, it's very difficult since the editor is very simplistic. If you get into creating custom charts, using Feedback or EOF will be the best way to go. Both programs have a large following, and although Feedback is no longer updated, I usually put out a new beta version of EOF every few weeks so it stays pretty current with new features.

cool. i never really tested out freetar editor, and from what you and kickassulater are saying, i dont feel like i want to eof sounds like the best from what you guys are saying. but i have a queation; is there anyway to import FE songs to EOF? i donwanna have to restart the song. also, i have just downloaded eof now and am now trying to figure this out which is way beyond my I.Q anyway, is there anyway to live record your song? (place the notes while the song is playing)

[raynebc]

To import your F.E. chart in progress, you'd need to convert the chart to MIDI format (use the "Freetar Hero SNG to Frets on Fire MID converter" function at this website):
http://www.nukular.ch/foftools

EOF can then import that MIDI (File>MIDI Import, browse to the converted chart file and click Open). You can place notes during playback, but you'll need to change the "input method" in File>Preferences to either "Guitar Tap" or "Guitar Strum". The former places notes when you press fret buttons (allowing you to place individual notes), the latter only places notes when you press a strum key (allowing you to place chords or individual notes). By default, F1 through F5 are used for frets 1 through 5 and Enter and Backslash serve as the strum buttons. You can connect a Rock Band/Guitar Hero controller before you start EOF, and as long as your computer recognizes it, you can tell EOF to use the controller's buttons to place notes by going to File>Controllers, clicking Guitar, selecting each item, clicking Redefine and then pressing the desired button on the controller. Then when the menus are closed out, you can start playback by pressing Spacebar (or clicking the green play icon near the top right of EOF's program window) and then adding notes while the song is playing. This is the bare minimum to get started though, there are other things you may want to consider such as increasing your audio buffer size (File>Settings) if the song lags/stutters during playback and grid snap (so notes are moved to partial beat intervals, such as every half a beat instead, which will help with timing issues that will come up when charting a song "live"). The Help>Keys menu item will give you some basic shortcuts, but it's also worth reading the included tutorial (Help>Tutorial) for an introduction to creating a chart. If you want to know what any of the menu functions do, they should all be documented in the manual (Help>Manual).

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

[akwardmoment]

To import your F.E. chart in progress, you'd need to convert the chart to MIDI format (use the "Freetar Hero SNG to Frets on Fire MID converter" function at this website):
http://www.nukular.ch/foftools

EOF can then import that MIDI (File>MIDI Import, browse to the converted chart file and click Open). You can place notes during playback, but you'll need to change the "input method" in File>Preferences to either "Guitar Tap" or "Guitar Strum". The former places notes when you press fret buttons (allowing you to place individual notes), the latter only places notes when you press a strum key (allowing you to place chords or individual notes). By default, F1 through F5 are used for frets 1 through 5 and Enter and Backslash serve as the strum buttons. You can connect a Rock Band/Guitar Hero controller before you start EOF, and as long as your computer recognizes it, you can tell EOF to use the controller's buttons to place notes by going to File>Controllers, clicking Guitar, selecting each item, clicking Redefine and then pressing the desired button on the controller. Then when the menus are closed out, you can start playback by pressing Spacebar (or clicking the green play icon near the top right of EOF's program window) and then adding notes while the song is playing. This is the bare minimum to get started though, there are other things you may want to consider such as increasing your audio buffer size (File>Settings) if the song lags/stutters during playback and grid snap (so notes are moved to partial beat intervals, such as every half a beat instead, which will help with timing issues that will come up when charting a song "live"). The Help>Keys menu item will give you some basic shortcuts, but it's also worth reading the included tutorial (Help>Tutorial) for an introduction to creating a chart. If you want to know what any of the menu functions do, they should all be documented in the manual (Help>Manual).

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

thanks a bunch, but there is a question i must ask;
i'll go step by step, so no one gets lost
1 "you'd need to convert the chart to MIDI format" Just did.
2 "File>MIDI Import, browse to the converted chart file and click Open" Finished.... BUT! after i click "open" it swiches to ANOTHER window that asks me for the ogg file (the one i used to create the freetar hero song) thus, i clicked on the ogg file and clicked "open" on that one as well. then, it tells me that it couldnt create the folder and to "ensure that the specified folder has a valid name" and that "the song folder is configured to a non write-restricted area" could you figure this out for me? did i do something wrong?

[raynebc]

If your chart is locating in some places, your Operating System might be blocking write access to it. For example, the root of the C drive, and anything within the "Program Files" directories are blocked for write access by default in Windows Vista and Windows 7. If the folder with your chart is marked as hidden, Allegro will have problems accessing it. Try locating your chart in a known good location such as a folder on your Desktop (or home directory if you use Linux, etc) and see if you still get that issue. If you do, could you open the eof_log.txt file and look near the bottom to see what it says regarding the error?

[akwardmoment]

If your chart is locating in some places, your Operating System might be blocking write access to it. For example, the root of the C drive, and anything within the "Program Files" directories are blocked for write access by default in Windows Vista and Windows 7. If the folder with your chart is marked as hidden, Allegro will have problems accessing it. Try locating your chart in a known good location such as a folder on your Desktop (or home directory if you use Linux, etc) and see if you still get that issue. If you do, could you open the eof_log.txt file and look near the bottom to see what it says regarding the error?

thank you. it finaly worked. I wasnt execpting this to ever work, but i was wrong. now i just need to figure out how to put this on FoF. cheers
oop almost fogot... about putting the songs on frets on fire... how exactly?

[raynebc]

You'll need to create a folder called "songs" (must be lower case in Mac and *nix) and use the menu option in FoF to specify the songs folder. For each chart you want to put into FoF, its files should be contained within a subfolder of the songs folder. Then each time you start FoF, it should build a list of all the songs you have in the folder and allow you to select from them for playing.

[akwardmoment]

You'll need to create a folder called "songs" (must be lower case in Mac and *nix) and use the menu option in FoF to specify the songs folder. For each chart you want to put into FoF, its files should be contained within a subfolder of the songs folder. Then each time you start FoF, it should build a list of all the songs you have in the folder and allow you to select from them for playing.

i've been downloading and importing songs from other people for a while (i have like 15 imported songs) so i know you automaticly start off with the song folder when you download/install the game. but how do i add the guitar.ogg/ song notepad file/ song.ogg/notes.mid files into the subfolder?

[raynebc]

You can move or copy your chart's folder (which contains those files you mentioned) into your FoF songs folder. If you like, you can even configure EOF to know where your FoF song folder is (File>Song Folder), so when you use the New Chart wizard and select the "Create new folder" option, it will save your new chart within a new folder in your FoF song folder so you don't have to manually move/copy it there later.

[akwardmoment]

You can move or copy your chart's folder (which contains those files you mentioned) into your FoF songs folder. If you like, you can even configure EOF to know where your FoF song folder is (File>Song Folder), so when you use the New Chart wizard and select the "Create new folder" option, it will save your new chart within a new folder in your FoF song folder so you don't have to manually move/copy it there later.

jeeze this is so confusing....
alright, so your telling me to add a subfolder inside the FoF song folder right? so i did that, but you didnt tell me how to add the files INTO the subfolder (not trying to sound rude or anything) . i dont think i've even gotten to making thoses 4 files exist yet. how do I?

[raynebc]

When you imported your MIDI and chose the OGG file, all the appropriate song files are created when you use the save function (ie. from the File menu). The most direct thing to do in this case would probably be to use the "Save as" function from the file menu, and save to the subfolder you created in FoF's song folder.