Rock Band 3, or GH:Warriors of Rock?

[aander91]

@Vedicardi, 1 problem, Neversoft hasnt charted a single song for GHWoR. Vicarious Visions is handling the on-disc setlist, while Beenox is handling DLC.

Although it still stands that GH is overcharted, no matter who you say is fretting what

This, and don't even try to defend that Megadeth chart.

then it's not really difficulty that you're looking for, it's feeling like you're good at the game when in reality you could be just running your hand up and down every button on the neck and still be doing great.

Well...






Yeah, pretty much. I just wanna impress the betches.

[Rapt0r]

@Vedicardi, 1 problem, Neversoft hasnt charted a single song for GHWoR. Vicarious Visions is handling the on-disc setlist, while Beenox is handling DLC. Those statements you made are based on your fanboyism for RB. Your first response to me will probly be something along the line that i am a GH fanboy and that i fail as a charter because i cant see an overchart to save my life

Amak, you've proven yourself in EVERY thread about GH or RB that you are very much a GH fanboy and your opinion on anything ever doesn't matter.

[vedicardi]

vedi likes undercharts though, right?

what kind of question is that lol

they used to underchart all the time (ramblin man etc) but not anymore

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@Vedicardi, 1 problem, Neversoft hasnt charted a single song for GHWoR. Vicarious Visions is handling the on-disc setlist, while Beenox is handling DLC. Those statements you made are based on your fanboyism for RB. Your first response to me will probly be something along the line that i am a GH fanboy and that i fail as a charter because i cant see an overchart to save my life

LOL

VV is only doing the wii port. why you think they would handle any of the charting is way over my head. VV merged with neversoft's GH division to an extent but they are still technically neversoft, and neversoft is the only company developing the base game

and beenox has been handling DLC since may. besides that isn't not like anyone has played any GH dlc since GH3's shred pack besides maybe a few hundred guys on scorehero

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and yes, even on top off all of that they are still awful charts so I don't understand what you're trying to do. you're not even defending the charts, you're just shifting the blame, as far as I can tell

[slashfan7964]

Awful charts or not, whos going to know besides communities like us? It's not like some 5 year old is going to point at the TV screen and say hey that's overcharted.

[aander91]

If you can pass the majority of the songs on Expert, then you should know when the notes just don't match up.

[slashfan7964]

True, but even still people aren't going to just star at the notes and think that. They don't care. They just want to play.

[aander91]

So? How does that justify shtty charts?

[slashfan7964]

It doesn't. All I'm saying is that the majority of the people who play the game aren't going to pay attention. The amount of people who do are outweighted by the people who don't so VV is going to carry on what they've been doing.

[amak11]

Amak, you've proven yourself in EVERY thread about GH or RB that you are very much a GH fanboy and your opinion on anything ever doesn't matter.

I am seriously tired of people calling me a fanboy. To an extent i do agree im a fan of GH, but no way in hell am i a full pledge fanboy.

This, and don't even try to defend that Megadeth chart.

I defend nothing!
I personally do not care for any chart, so long as the music is good, im happy.

VV is only doing the wii port. why you think they would handle any of the charting is way over my head. VV merged with neversoft's GH division to an extent but they are still technically neversoft, and neversoft is the only company developing the base game

and beenox has been handling DLC since may. besides that isn't not like anyone has played any GH dlc since GH3's shred pack besides maybe a few hundred guys on scorehero

As for the first statement, i seriously wish i read more about it cause i didnt know.

And the second, i have purchased GH DLC, the only difference between Neversoft and Beenox is that Beenox loves to use overlapping notes.

[slashfan7964]

Nah. You lie amak. You know, deep down, that your heart lies with Guitar Hero, and forever will.

wat

[Belisario93]

It doesn't. All I'm saying is that the majority of the people who play the game aren't going to pay attention. The amount of people who do are outweighted by the people who don't so VV is going to carry on what they've been doing.

This is probably the smartest post I've ever seen you make. Congratulations.

Basically what he's getting at is that most people play these rhythm games (or any video game for that matter), to HAVE FUN. Honestly, the fact that people b*tch and moan about how "realistic" a chart is just makes me sick. If you don't like it sit down, shut the f*ck up, and let everybody enjoy a game without you being a little stuck up prick. It's one thing to voice your opinion on something, and then it's another to go broadcasting that same opinion over and over and over in every thread that mentions it. We get it, you don't like guitar hero. You're not going to suddenly make everyone suddenly say "f*ck this, it sucks. that random guy on the internet was right, there is no value in this game at all."

Remember kids (this goes for everyone, including the people that decide it's necessary to defend guitar hero):

Granted, I like Rock Band more because of the setlist and the overall setting, but that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy my copy of GH3 and GHM.

As far as this next set of games go, I don't have any plans on buying either. Personally I think the Rock Band Pro Mode is a little bit of overkill, and I know I won't be using it if I get RB3 as I already have a real guitar, am not interested in learning the keyboard, and don't have the money to get another RB drum set (I have an RB1 kit). The new gameplay mode that GH will have sounds interesting, and I'm liking the setlist as well. Overall, both look pretty good as far as I know. However, I don't think I'll be buying either of these games anyways as I'll be too busy playing Gran Turismo 5 when it comes out in November.

[vedicardi]

the problem is overcharting is a GAMEPLAY problem.

example, a kid can get through all of GH2 on hard without too much of an issue but has a hard time beating slow ride on hard in GH3. They don't know how to chart and it ruins the game.

The amount of people who do are outweighted by the people who don't so VV is going to carry on what they've been doing.

yeah it's not like the GH brand is dying out at all

[amak11]

Rythym games in general are a dieing genre. Keyboards and RBN will save RB. While GH RPG aspect will keep that game series going. They both hit the same fork in the fork in the road. RB went one way, while GH went the other. At some point those paths will end. For both GH and RB

[aander91]

Cool your jets sir, we aren't far enough into this thread to be playing hero yet.

This forum consists of almost ALL die hard players or at least people have more knowledge about charting than your average Mom. Basically everyone here knows and overchart when they see one, and WE are having the discussion. It's fine to acknowledge that there are others who don't know as much about the game as we do, but to ask why we are debating the finer points of the game is just stupid.

Look at it this way. You go to a forum where two hobbyist engineers are debating on whether or not something should be on a plane design. You have no idea what they are talking about, but you can tell it's getting heated.

You go in and say, "Hey, nobody but an engineer is going to know what's there, so who cares?"

The both pause, look at you disgustedly and continue on.

Tl;dr: This is a rhythm game forum and the users have advanced knowledge of the subject. Let them discuss THAT, rather than the basics.

[Belisario93]

aander, while normally I would agree with you, in this case it's almost always the same discussion. If they were arguing over new things, such as pro mode in RB or the new gameplay mode in GH:WoR, then I would have kept quiet. However, just about every thread involving GH and/or RB ends up with either the overchart/underchart discussion, the wide hit window discussion, or the discussion about drum sets, among others. They have been discussed to the point where everyone already knows what everyone else's opinion is on it, and almost the same exact points and arguments are being brought up every time. So basically, these discussions are doing nothing. They're old, yet they keep being brought up. It's useless clutter, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was being done to boost post counts. I don't mind a debate, but when it's the same debate that's been going on for years, it starts to get old.