The LAWS of guitar authoring

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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby amak11 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:04 pm

Kotti wrote:Of course it does a lot of things EOF wasn't designed for, it's a midi editor. If I was a beginner to charting, which would I choose: complex midi editor that does EVERYTHING and more, or the simple chart editor which does, well, charts? All the cool features midi editors are completely useless when charting.
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Not my point. What I was asking, was if there was anything you could do with Reaper that you can't do with chart editors. From what I understand, there's no such thing.

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Example of what I meant: Does Reaper make dB and EOF look like Freetar?


I think everything should be classified different now for everyones sake. Midi/audio editors such as FL Studio and Reaper are both good in there own way. (such as, a lot that i honestly do not understand). DB, EOF and Freetar are specifically FOF (SoS, FM, etc) chart editor/makers. Best to use to worst are FL studio - Reaper - EOF/DB - Freetar. Freetar makes itself look bad, DB and EOF serve one purpose. Reaper and FL studio serve a greater purpose. In my view the program that is closest to Reaper is EOF because of all the features EOF has.

Using myself as an example, i have made bad charts. All lot of bad charts come from bad technique. The more you chart the better you get. All it is the simple method of trail and error
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby BSRaven » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:06 pm

amak11 wrote:Using myself as an example, i have made bad charts. All lot of bad charts come from bad technique. The more you chart the better you get. All it is the simple method of trail and error


Unfortunately, certain people think that the more I've charted the WORSE I've gotten.

Most amusingly, those people only started complaining after Christmas 2007 (when I got GH3)
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby Kotti » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:14 pm

amak11 wrote:...Reaper and FL studio serve a greater purpose...
You didn't answer the question at all. In what sense do they serve a greater purpose when charting? Of course a midi editor can do more than a chart editor, but when you're only going to chart, what's the point of having a midi editor? It's like using a highly powerful video editing software to get a snapshot from a video instead of using VLC to get the shot. Absolute overkill.

Yes I'm complaining about something that doesn't affect me in any way. I just think it's a weird idea from Harmonix to make people use something like this, and I'm in a whiny mood.
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby lordhardware » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:29 pm

Kotti wrote:
amak11 wrote:...Reaper and FL studio serve a greater purpose...
You didn't answer the question at all. In what sense do they serve a greater purpose when charting? Of course a midi editor can do more than a chart editor, but when you're only going to chart, what's the point of having a midi editor? It's like using a highly powerful video editing software to get a snapshot from a video instead of using VLC to get the shot. Absolute overkill.

Yes I'm complaining about something that doesn't affect me in any way. I just think it's a weird idea from Harmonix to make people use something like this, and I'm in a whiny mood.


@Kotti, in terms of what it can do... as the entire notes.mid IS a midi, the fact that you can chart vocals, drums, guitars, star-power paths, solo sections, custom HO/POs, BREs and more is alot better then having to use text events or multiple programs to serve the same perpose
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby raynebc » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:51 pm

Being that Reaper is what Harmonix uses, it supports all the text events and any other relevant MIDI features that FL Studio doesn't. FL Studio (to me) seems more like a DAW (Reaper is also a DAW) than a dedicated MIDI editor like Anvil Studio (which has its own list of shortcomings). Therefore, Reaper is a more complete charting tool than FL, not to mention not having a limited-feature trial version.
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby aduro » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:00 pm

Reaper is pretty cool I like it now. I'm probably going to use it from now on

charting vocals is fun. I like matching up the midi beeps with the vocal path
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby jdawg » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:50 pm

I'd rather learn more about drum authoring.
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby vedicardi » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:22 am

Kotti wrote:
amak11 wrote:...Reaper and FL studio serve a greater purpose...
You didn't answer the question at all. In what sense do they serve a greater purpose when charting? Of course a midi editor can do more than a chart editor, but when you're only going to chart, what's the point of having a midi editor? It's like using a highly powerful video editing software to get a snapshot from a video instead of using VLC to get the shot. Absolute overkill.

Yes I'm complaining about something that doesn't affect me in any way. I just think it's a weird idea from Harmonix to make people use something like this, and I'm in a whiny mood.


you don't have to. if you chart using dB you can put the midi into reaper and then just move the notes around a bit and everything should match up after a tiny bit of work. The issue is then you have to additionally chart out all of the movements and **** which literally can't be done in anything other than a midi editor. It still works using a midi
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby BSRaven » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:14 am

Aaaand we've derailed into Reaper vs. FL Studio vs. Feedback vs. EOF.

Why am I not surprised?
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby lordhardware » Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:53 am

raynebc wrote: not to mention not having a limited-feature trial version.


uhhhh... you have to pay for reaper as well...

you just dont have to pay for the plug-in
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby Rapt0r » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:11 am

I am in and I don't know the trick! :C

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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby iamsensay » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:15 am

Rapt0r wrote:I am in and I don't know the trick! :C

Lol sodomized sheep.


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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby Rapt0r » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:56 am

... how the hell did that happen? Damn it :C

Still relevant here.
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby raynebc » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:07 pm

lordhardware wrote:
raynebc wrote: not to mention not having a limited-feature trial version.


uhhhh... you have to pay for reaper as well...

you just dont have to pay for the plug-in

You mis-understood. I said Reaper doesn't have a crippled trial version. The unlicensed version is 100% fully functional.
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Re: The LAWS of guitar authoring

Postby Nathaniel607 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:12 pm

Well, about db vs. EoF vs. Reaper.

DB has noticable technical weaknesses; no proper solo marking; no crazy note implementation and a couple of other little things. But these are all small, and db is still perfectly fine for fretting.

IMO, EoF is more suited to fretting; I like the simplistic design, it's fine IMO. If you're gonna whine about it though...

Reaper, to me, just doesn't seem to have that many great advantages, from what I've heard. I guess I'll 'obtain' it, and check it out.

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