The LAWS of guitar authoring

[Rapt0r]

QFT... some of the stuff in there is a given... but seriously, there are so many errors in rockbands charts (albeit less than neversofts) that they making "LAWS" would be rediculous

They made the laws because they invented charting. If you don't like it, never chart please

If you have ever made a more moronic post than this, I haven't seen it.

[death_au]

... they invented charting.

Oh yes. Harmonix were the first to make a guitar-based rhythm game
Also:

These documents discuss best practices for authoring, our standards for difficulty, the philosophy of how to create great gameplay tracks...

Nothing here says "Do it this way or DIE!"

[aduro]

I'm dead serious. If you flat out disagree with the guidelines you are better off never contributing another chart again because it'll be crap

But these guidelines are very broad and accepted as it is sooo

... they invented charting.

Oh yes. Harmonix were the first to make a guitar-based rhythm game

Ahh a little known fact that FoF actually sprang to life from the bud of an obscure konami game

Also:

These documents discuss best practices for authoring, our standards for difficulty, the philosophy of how to create great gameplay tracks...

Nothing here says "Do it this way or DIE!"

Harmonix has made it very clear that any chart that isn't charted to these rules won't survive the content rating system. That's why they made this in the first place.

[vedicardi]

it's good to have the charting guidelines.

Yeah... about that... Guidelines aren't to be STRICTLY followed. LAWS are.

The topic title ("The LAWS of guitar authoring") basically says "THIS IS HOW YOU FRET. GO F*CK YOURSELF AND GET OUT IF YOU DON'T DO IT THIS WAY."

This is Vedicardi though. Doesn't surprise me one bit.

I couldn't fret like this. I honestly couldn't.

they obviously aren't laws, and they aren't presented by HMX as such lol

[NBSRDan]

This was very helpful. I went from knowing how to chart Expert and Expert+ drums to all difficulties.

[death_au]

I'm dead serious. If you flat out disagree with the guidelines you are better off never contributing another chart again because it'll be crap

Who said anything about flat out disagreeing?
It seems we all agree with the guidelines, there's just always occasions here and there where you slip off the guidelines in order to keep the song true / fun.

Main point: Guidelines =/= Laws.
If you don't follow the guidelines, likely people will think your chart is crap, but that doesn't mean they have to be followed to the letter.

[Rapt0r]

Don't even bother arguing with him.

[DreamOnMan92]

Don't even bother arguing with him.

Agreed. Don't feed the troll

[Rapt0r]

It's not even trolling, that's the sad thing.

[Kotti]

it's a **** ton better than eof. The RBN preview window lets me view the chart like dB and actually placing the notes is pretty easy. Also with the preview window, it actually hits the notes instead of just going over them like dB does which helps.

And tons better than Feedback as well, but it's pointless to compare industry-grade software with all the free alternatives.

Exactly how is Reaper better than EOF/dB? Notes being hit in the preview window doesn't sound like much. And it seems mouse based, which isn't a very good thing imo.

[lordhardware]

Kotti, Reaper is just another midi editor, the extra plugin that rockband uses just makes it easier to discern the notes, in the end its exactly the same as using FLStudio

[Kotti]

I'll take that as "It's not".

[lordhardware]

I'll take that as "It's not".

Its all just a matter of what you're use to... if it works for you dont fix it...

I love FLStudio, its what I use to fret, but hate the layout in reaper.

and i dont mind EOF, but hate dB

it's all opinion

[vedicardi]

it's a **** ton better than eof. The RBN preview window lets me view the chart like dB and actually placing the notes is pretty easy. Also with the preview window, it actually hits the notes instead of just going over them like dB does which helps.

And tons better than Feedback as well, but it's pointless to compare industry-grade software with all the free alternatives.

Exactly how is Reaper better than EOF/dB? Notes being hit in the preview window doesn't sound like much. And it seems mouse based, which isn't a very good thing imo.

simply put it does a lot of things EOF wasn't designed for. Raynebc was right in saying I shouldn't really be comparing them.

[Kotti]

Of course it does a lot of things EOF wasn't designed for, it's a midi editor. If I was a beginner to charting, which would I choose: complex midi editor that does EVERYTHING and more, or the simple chart editor which does, well, charts? All the cool features midi editors are completely useless when charting.

it's all opinion

Not my point. What I was asking, was if there was anything you could do with Reaper that you can't do with chart editors. From what I understand, there's no such thing.

EDIT:
Example of what I meant: Does Reaper make dB and EOF look like Freetar?