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Re: Karma mod

Postby slashfan7964 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:01 pm

I agree with Rapt0r. It's totally unfair to switch like that.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby warhol » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:03 pm

Whoa when did srs happen
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Rapt0r » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:14 pm

No staff input on the sudden change?
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Lysdestic » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:22 pm

Ouch, Perma-bans, missed that development. A change-vote thing wouldn't hurt, that considered.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Maartah » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:33 pm

Rapt0r wrote:Also, since this is to be taken seriously now, give us the ability to change our minds on people.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Rapt0r » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:41 pm

Maartah wrote:
Rapt0r wrote:Also, since this is to be taken seriously now, give us the ability to change our minds on people.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby estemshorn » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:42 am

Rapt0r wrote:
Maartah wrote:
Rapt0r wrote:Also, since this is to be taken seriously now, give us the ability to change our minds on people.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby amak11 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:15 am

Well, not to be mean (and cause i had "no internet" all weekend). The ability to change your mind, are you serious!?! :cursing:
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If someone gave you negative karma it was for a REALLY good reason, and honestly it reflects your behavior on the internet. :angry:
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Generally i have a reputation as a stubourn idiot here on the forum, but i have my areas of "expertise" so i can get a positive karma. :glare:
*calming down*

I find it funny that Raptor and estemhorn are pushing this issue tho, not surprised by lysdestic, i think i seen raynebc name somewhere around this issue too.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Jama7301 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:31 pm

I think being to change it is a bad idea. Because if it wasn't limited, people would flip their votes over trivial and stupid reasoning.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Rapt0r » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:57 pm

amak11 wrote:If someone gave you negative karma it was for a REALLY good reason, and honestly it reflects your behavior on the internet.


Or how about the fact this wasn't never meant from the beginning to be taken seriously? It was all fun and games so, at least I did, karma'd as such. It's idiotic to take the results of what was supposed to be fun and just make them serious.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Belisario93 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:23 pm

Jama7301 wrote:I think being to change it is a bad idea. Because if it wasn't limited, people would flip their votes over trivial and stupid reasoning.


this. However, I'm kindof on the fence about resetting the votes though. The main pro to it would be that those who didn't make an honest vote on someone can now do so. The main con is that now that people know that a certain karma level will get someone banned, it will influence their vote more than just out of their opinion on someone. Granted, that won't change anything about newer members, but the majority of the current regulars have been voted on by most of the rest of the current regulars.

Since your main concern is someone getting banned for the wrong reasons, one way that we could make sure that the banned user is truly unwanted is to PM a certain amount of people that downvoted someone that reached -50 karma to see if they believe that person was banned fairly. If enough people say "wait, I may not have voted as honestly as I should have", as judged by nwru and/or raph, they get unbanned. The mods could be included as well, but it wouldn't necessarily be needed because this wouldn't happen enough to need more than 2 people to take care of it.

Also, if I remember right, nwru has said that the software doesn't allow the user to change votes, and that the project is essentially dead. I would suggest maybe creating a policy that someone can PM nwru about changing a maximum of 5 votes per 3 month period. However, that would be a bigger burden on nwru's already burdened shoulders (spam is heavy, you know), so he probably wouldn't be very fond of the idea.

I think this was carried out in a good way. I think we would have seen much more immediate and harder to control system abuse if they said "-50 karma = ban" right off the bat rather than "it doesn't really mean anything, but still be honest". Not to mention, the latter makes it easier to see what a good limit would be. It would be stupid to set a limit from the start without knowing what would be too easy to reach and what would be too hard.

Either way, suck it up. You're not banned yet.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Rapt0r » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:03 pm

You're forgetting the whole point that this was entirely meant to be for fun.

Nwru wrote:Disclaimer: This mod is only for fun. Don't take it personally and don't abuse it. If I find anyone gaming the system, warnings/bannings will be in order, or the mod will be disabled entirely.

Nwru wrote:Disclaimer: This mod is only for fun. Don't take it personally and don't abuse it.


Nwru wrote:Disclaimer: This mod is only for fun.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby aander91 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:08 pm

This was never "fun". Everyone took this seriously to an extent. We could all pretty much guess what numbers everyone was going to get because we knew what they were like. All it did was allow others to have an excuse to rip on people without any other knowledge than their Karma.
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Re: Karma mod

Postby Rapt0r » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:10 pm

You can't possibly say that everyone took this seriously, (I didn't so you're already wrong there).
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Re: Karma mod

Postby aander91 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:16 pm

You voted.
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