farottone wrote:rambomhtri wrote:After all my messages, is it that your question?
Yes, I want to know if you are a straight up liar or if somebody actually told you that it's wrong for you to listen to multitracks (which isn't a scandal in itself, but I would like to debate that). You are saying that somebody from our group did that, please provide some proof of that: quote of what was said to you, by whom, when. Anything else you say is really unimportant: you don't understand simple business and licensing logics so it makes no sense to continue on that path. A number of people have explained to you why, you don't understand very very simple concepts (just the fact that you think that an MP3 available from thousands if not hundred of thousands of sources is as valuable and as in need of protection than something only available from one single source boggles the mind), there is no way of making you understand. I'm a C3 founder and admin, I have explained why, people here have all understood except you. You are clearly lacking basic knowledge of business, licensing, optics, etc. so it's not worth it repeating things that you won't understand.
Are you kidding me?
Lying? You may consider I am a liar? Are you dumb or you're just trolling?
Do you think I come here and start making up stories to have fun?
I didn't know you were from C3. Alright, then I can talk to you directly, cause I thought you were just a random user.
Why do you consider sharing mixes is safer than sharing multitracks, if both are illegal?
You are all the time saying I am then only one who does not understand why, but surprise, no one here has given a solid reason to that why. Prove is that from time to time there's a new argument. First the argument that says "it costs lots of money to create a master track", then that "you can steal master tracks", now you say they are way more dangerous cause there are less sources.
Less sources? One single source?
For your personal information, every single master track is in every single CD game, and there are millions and millions of CD games over the world. MILLIONS. Every single person with a PS3 and a CD game can play in practice mode and boom, listen to that weird, so difficult to get master track. Now, you buy a $40 capture card for PS3, as I have, and you become a source. It's really, really difficult, uh?
The newer the argument is, the less sense it makes. This is getting beyond absurdness.
Less sources, wow. I mean, if you were in the music industry and secretly stole master tracks from albums that are not anywhere else, then I could understand why you wouldn't share them. Indeed, you wouldn't talk to anyone about that. But we are talking about music games, millions of CD's, millions of kids playing these games.
You are confused, it's not that there are less sources, because actually there are WAY MORE sources of multitracks than allbum CD's, cause Guitar Hero's have been sold way more than albums, so yeah, there are way more sources. What it is less is the demand of it, that's way smaller, no one cares about multitracks, except a little percentage of music lovers and musicians.
Now, here comes the quotes of TrojanNemo, PMed me:
He (bluzer) doesn't want you to use it for anything else, and when you do, you're doing something that he doesn't condone and the community does not like. Nobody can stop you from doing what you want (except forum admins here and on C3 can will ban you if you continue with that attitude). But you should not act like you're entitled to anything, because you are not.
He talks about licenses and stuff, but he has no problem at all to tell me what bluzer thinks. Lack of logic everywhere. Even the community does not like that I listen to master tracks. Wow, he thinks he can talk as an entire community. Then he says I shouldn't act like I'm entitled to anything (apparently, listen to master tracks outside the game and being mad at someone that tells me I shouldn't do that, is acting like and entitled punk). Wow, the master of hypocrisy. And if you did not notice, he threatens me with banning. Banning for listening to master tracks through VLC instead of the game itself.
You know, after reading all that sh*t, I think you can imagine why did I create this thread, trying to discovers what's really going on with multitracks and what is so dangerous about them.
I know you think that somehow makes what you're doing right, but it doesn't. Bluzer provides these for use in the game. Any other use is not condoned and he has every right to be upset. The others that contribute to what he does also are upset because they do what they do for the games.
That is exactly right. You're downloading from a thread titled "...for Phase Shift" - what makes you think the files are there for any other reason? This whole forum is for music game players.
If you're here using the files found on this site for other uses than to play the video games they're for, you should at least shut up about it and enjoy it in silence, since they are NOT created or provided for your use.
C3 is a group that creates custom songs to be played in Rock Band 3. These sometimes have multitrack audio that can't be found anywhere else, and they are encrypted to protect them from people like you. Precisely because C3 creates them for the game. Any other use, is not authorized and we don't want you to do it. Simple as that.
You guys encrypt your stuff to protect it from people like ME!
Yeah, stay away from me, I'm a very bad person that does really evil things with master tracks, like listening to them in VLC, I know, it's so, so evil. encrypt the encryption so I can never access to master tracks, I could do some terrible things.
And all these quotes are not out of context, they are pretty clear and self-explaining. He was answering me to a PM I sent him where I told him I was mad at 2 users that told me I'm not welcome here if I listen to master tracks outside the game. If I'm in this forum, I must be a gamer and only a gamer, any other kind of person is not welcome. So it's obvious why I where mad at them.