Map of Metal

[aander91]

There are different extremes of grindcore. What most people hear is the more extreme stuff and then just say no, the stuff with melody doesn't get a chance very often. Some grindcore can be really cool (IE Cephalic Carnage, Rise Above and no one else (jk))

Those are two pretty extreme sides of the spectrum though for one genre.

[vedicardi]

it's really not that much different. You just turn up the distortion and speed another level and it's the same thing

[Jama7301]

Since when does Queen belong in Death Metal?

It's Not?

Jama, I think you clicked something with Queen then went over to Death Metal and forgot.

Oh, HEAVY Metal. Sorry, the font was a pain in the ass to read.

Same argument still stands.

Queen is in the same category as Black Sabbath on that map.

Stone Cold Crazy - Queen (1974)

[Rapt0r]

>Queen
>metal
hahahahaha

They're classic rock at best.

[Jama7301]

That's the point I was trying to raise. Map be wack yo.

[Rapt0r]

There are people that actually consider Queen as one of the first metal groups. I don't see it.

[Deseo Sangre]

Dude, you should know your roots.

[Kotti]

- Viking metal isn't a proper genre
- Sludge metal isn't connected to "post-metal"
- Swedish death metal isn't a proper genre
- If they have death 'n' roll they might as well have black 'n' roll
- Lacks almost all progressive stuff
- Rap metal should fall under nu-metal

I thought that was kinda awesome. I had heard of Blood Stained Child before but I guess I never listened to them because I can't say that I've ever heard THAT.

Imo Silent Descent does the same thing but better. Props for the chart for having SD in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5WwXDkYiko

[Metallicaholic666]

ITT: Metallicaholic likes Megadeth more then Metallica.

:P

Endgame>Death Magnetic.

latest album defines a career lol

Twas just an example. I could go on and on and on with each album matching up and have Megadeth kick Metallica's ass. (lolreload)

[vedicardi]

- Viking metal isn't a proper genre
- Sludge metal isn't connected to "post-metal"
- Swedish death metal isn't a proper genre
- If they have death 'n' roll they might as well have black 'n' roll
- Lacks almost all progressive stuff
- Rap metal should fall under nu-metal

I thought that was kinda awesome. I had heard of Blood Stained Child before but I guess I never listened to them because I can't say that I've ever heard THAT.

Imo Silent Descent does the same thing but better. Props for the chart for having SD in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5WwXDkYiko

-There are quite a few missing connections unfortunately due to the design of the whole thing
-Fair enough
-Could have, but oh well
-I think that would have convoluted the map to an extreme degree, but it's a fair point. The only problem is EVERY genre has a "progressive" sub genre. There's even progressive thrash. Crazy
-I disagree, there's a difference.

Queen wrote a BUNCH of songs that heavily inspired speed metal. Listen to Gamma Ray. They have so many direct homages to Queen that they go as far as to note for note replicate sections from songs. No they weren't a metal group but they wrote plenty of proto-metal songs just as Deep Purple wrote Fireball etc but aren't an real "heavy metal" nevermind speed metal group. Songs like that are on there to show influence above all else.

"Twas just an example. I could go on and on and on with each album matching up and have Megadeth kick Metallica's ass. (lolreload)"

They're not even comparable, so stop it.

[tibiazak]

- Viking metal isn't a proper genre
- Sludge metal isn't connected to "post-metal"
- Swedish death metal isn't a proper genre

According to the legend, Viking and Sludge are both "fusion genres", and Swedish is considered a subgenre of metal. It's not saying those are separate and distinct, they're all found either within metal or when metal is mixed with something else. I think they qualify as subgenres...

[Kotti]

Sludge can be as fusion as it wants, it should still be connected to post-metal (guess I was a little unclear about that). Viking metal is just stupid because it doesn't tell anything about the music itself, just that it's inspired by the mythology. Swedish DM might be okay if it referred to Gothenburg DM/Melodeath, but in that chart they're just throwing everything from Opeth to At the Gates in there.

[MopHead]

I LMAO'd when I saw depressive black metal

[Heka Adonis 69]

Neo-classical should have a straight connect with melo-power, and a mentioned next to symphonic. Really weird to me that it's not already like that.
And death-metal should have routes to everywhere and even bigger part of the map, because really, I thnik that it might be close to 40% of metal today.

[vedicardi]

Death Metal is connected to like 10 different genres lol. The list was also recently updated to include Djent and others.

Viking Metal is a genre. The music isn't directly derivative from something brought forth by Vikings, but rather the style of music played by Bathory when he introduced Viking lyrical themes. Viking metal bands follow in suit by using that sound as well as the lyrical themes.

Neo-Classical and Symphonic have a lot in common, they should be connected, but it's quite a distance. Neo-classical should have a few more connections, though not nessicarily with mellow-power. Neo-classical didn't take off until the 90s really, and later, while Melo-power was in full force long before that (1987).

@Kotti: Having Opeth in there is odd, but seeing the direct connection to Melodeath, I think they are counting the early Melodeath bands as simply Swedish. It's kinda odd but since at the gates type metal and melodeath share the exact same roots it works.

Sir Lord Baltimore being in heavy metal is one of the greatest things of all time