Tempo Mapping

[Nathaniel607]

>works perfectly
I do hope you're manually going back and fixing the beat syncing. I'd really like to see a video of the songs you have made so far.

Of course, you can't just put down a static bpm and use it throughout the entire song, 99.9% of the time that won't work. Just use Mixmeister to get the general map done then go through and mess with the anchors as needed.

This works fine. If you put anchors on accuratly, it's fine.

[anthman852]

I don't see why you can't do this....here is a video which may help you out.

http://www.rhythmauthors.com/audio_work ... 7716d4069f

I mean seriously...you just play the song and hit Q a bunch of times.

[omfgdrphl]

Of course, you can't just put down a static bpm and use it throughout the entire song, 99.9% of the time that won't work. Just use Mixmeister to get the general map done then go through and mess with the anchors as needed.

Actually, about 75% of songs made in the past 10 years will work with the BPM Mixmeister gives you. Of course, you need to know the difference between a song with perfect BPM and one with drifting BPM. Mixmeister will almost never give you the EXACT number, rather it'll give you something EXTREMELY close to it, like 100.05 instead of 100. And if you do this but your song still goes out of sync slowly, then you messed up your first note. Even a few milliseconds can take it off sync later on. If you get a song with perfect bpm and you start using anchors on it you'll make a real mess of it.

[timfoss]

Of course, you can't just put down a static bpm and use it throughout the entire song, 99.9% of the time that won't work. Just use Mixmeister to get the general map done then go through and mess with the anchors as needed.

Actually, about 75% of songs made in the past 10 years will work with the BPM Mixmeister gives you. Of course, you need to know the difference between a song with perfect BPM and one with drifting BPM. Mixmeister will almost never give you the EXACT number, rather it'll give you something EXTREMELY close to it, like 100.05 instead of 100. And if you do this but your song still goes out of sync slowly, then you messed up your first note. Even a few milliseconds can take it off sync later on. If you get a song with perfect bpm and you start using anchors on it you'll make a real mess of it.

Actually, if you load just the split drum audio into mixmeister, 99.9% of the time it will give you the correct BPM, dead on. This is because most songs made in a decent recording studio are treated with programs to give it a static BPM, and this can be easily accessed and viewed through the drum track.

Also, I don't like the tutorials RA and other places give. Their example tracks are always clean cut and perfect tracks. I work with a lot of speed metal and psychedelic rock, which has crazy drums where you can't tell where one hit stops and the next begins just by looking at the wave chart.

[vedicardi]

Realize this: drummers aren't perfect. Even they aren't playing with a metronome, particularly with indie bands like ones for RBN

[timfoss]

Realize this: drummers aren't perfect. Even they aren't playing with a metronome, particularly with indie bands like ones for RBN

Yes I know, that's why their music is treated to fit a static bpm. What this does is shorten or expand the song by fractions of a millisecond all over the song so that it plays at 1 speed throughout the entirety of a phrase or section. You can tell these songs apart because the bpm will always end in a 5 or a 0 in EVERY section of the song.

[vedicardi]

that is ridiculous

who's music?

[timfoss]

that is ridiculous

who's music?

The band I'm working with A City Serene has used that on the track I'm releasing. Apparently it's sort of "new" technology. It's only been around since like 08 but a lot of big bands are starting to move towards that direction and use it.

[vedicardi]

Well that's one band apparently you have about 300 other ones you need to chart for so you can't exactly rely on it.

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

[Nathaniel607]

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

Nah, no one can noticing the drifting of tempos in songs. Obviously delibirate ritardo/accels and tempo changes (like in prog) are a different story.

[timfoss]

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

Obviously delibirate ritardo/accels and tempo changes (like in prog) are a different story.

Hey, who the **** you callin' a ritardo!

[vedicardi]

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

Nah, no one can noticing the drifting of tempos in songs.

you're arguing an opinion with little reason with an opinion with even less.

[iamsensay]

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

Obviously delibirate ritardo/accels and tempo changes (like in prog) are a different story.

Hey, who the **** you callin' a ritardo!

Haha. That is really clever. I see that you have made a play on words here and an amusing one at that. It's funny because ritardo and retard sound similiar! I especially like how you took one word out of context and changed the meaning too! What an absolute master of wit you are to come up with wordplay such as this! I am most impressed!

[timfoss]

Haha. That is really clever. I see that you have made a play on words here and an amusing one at that. It's funny because ritardo and retard sound similiar! I especially like how you took one word out of context and changed the meaning too! What an absolute master of wit you are to come up with wordplay such as this! I am most impressed!

I know, I'm a clever little sonovabitch right! I saw that you had posted ritardo that sounded similar to retard and the responded in such a manner that showed I thought you were calling me a retard, creating a funny play on words. It just came to me!

[Electro Tomato]

And not keeping perfect BPM is what gives a lot of songs their charm

Nah, no one can noticing the drifting of tempos in songs. Obviously delibirate ritardo/accels and tempo changes (like in prog) are a different story.

Ever listen to old Zeppelin? Any old punk? You can totally hear the mess ups and tempo drifting, easy.