Spastic Ink?

[flowerzink]

I'm gonna let Wiki do it for me:

Spastic Ink specialize in very complex instrumental fusion metal by using uncommon time signatures, frequent changes of time signatures and melodies that follow no particular scale. For example, in the song A Wild Hare, musical themes follow certain events that happen in the Disney movie Bambi. What makes the song very uncommon is that the guitar (and sometimes bass) frequently play the sounds of the dialogue spoken in the movie, instead of using any of the original score. This tends to make the piece sound cacophonous, especially if the listener is unaware of the connection between the song and the movie.

BTW listen to this:


Well, why this post?? That's an easy one:

Some day in the past I didn't know what Progressive Metal was. I was happy listening to some prog rock bands but then I came along this music.... Oh man!!! It's so mind blowing I couldn´t believe it at all. This is not a genre that's for anybody to like, but it's richness is beyond anything I've heard before.

Well, if you like it now you know its name, and check my thread, there could be some prog metal to be charted soon...

Other mind-blowing prog metal bands:

• Canvas Solaris (holy **** man.....)
• Liquid Tension Experiment
• Dream Theater (fathers of prog metal)

[omfgdrphl]

You'd like Blotted Science.

[crazy.neo]

That's pretty **** awesome.

[porknchili]

You'd like Blotted Science.

or Watchtower

Dream Theater (fathers of prog metal)

*cough Fates Warning and Watchtower cough*

[vedicardi]

Voivod created prog metal in 1984

[omfgdrphl]

Voivod created prog metal in 1984

That's debatable.

[flowerzink]

You'd like Blotted Science.

I do

[porknchili]

You'd like Blotted Science.

I do

Blotted Science, Spastic Ink, and Watchtower all have one thing in common. Ron Jarzombek is the guitarist in all of them

[vedicardi]

Voivod created prog metal in 1984

That's debatable.

No it's not

[omfgdrphl]

[vedicardi]

Yeah and Led Zeppelin was the first metal band. This isn't how it works people.

Example: Black Sabbath plays Symptom of the Universe, or Deep Purple plays Highway Star? Would you consider either of them the first Thrash Metal band? No, Metallica, Exodus, Overkill, (arguably Venom) and Slayer were, etc etc. Those guys were Prog Rock and they happened to make a Prog Metal song or two, but Voivod was the first band to play pure Prog Metal (although perhaps it could be argued that some early prog acts were "prog metal" is people are really considering bands like Dream Theater Prog Metal. Voivod took prog metal to the next level before there was a level to start on. The only element of Queensryche that is metal is their vocals and chord structure. I would call them "Prog Hard Rock" if anything. I mean really Judas Priest was more "progressive" than them simply by the fact that they used classical scales before anyone else.

King Crimson is hard to define. I mean really I suppose you could say their first album was prog metal mixed with jazz fusion. Nothing tops that. But at the same time, it's nothing like prog metal as we know it, it's prog heavy metal, not METAL metal if you get my point. In that sense it's hard to say. If you really want to group in bands that are really more hard rock influenced than metal into prog metal just to save yourself from having to... I dunno, then I guess that's up to you. I mean there's far more yardbirds and who and zep influence in all three of the examples you posted than there is of influence from Sabbath, Rainbow, or Priest.

[Nathaniel607]

Yeah and Led Zeppelin was the first metal band. This isn't how it works people.

Example: Black Sabbath plays Symptom of the Universe, or Deep Purple plays Highway Star? Would you consider either of them the first Thrash Metal band? No, Metallica, Exodus, Overkill, (arguably Venom) and Slayer were, etc etc. Those guys were Prog Rock and they happened to make a Prog Metal song or two, but Voivod was the first band to play pure Prog Metal (although perhaps it could be argued that some early prog acts were "prog metal" is people are really considering bands like Dream Theater Prog Metal. Voivod took prog metal to the next level before there was a level to start on. The only element of Queensryche that is metal is their vocals and chord structure. I would call them "Prog Hard Rock" if anything. I mean really Judas Priest was more "progressive" than them simply by the fact that they used classical scales before anyone else.

King Crimson is hard to define. I mean really I suppose you could say their first album was prog metal mixed with jazz fusion. Nothing tops that. But at the same time, it's nothing like prog metal as we know it, it's prog heavy metal, not METAL metal if you get my point. In that sense it's hard to say. If you really want to group in bands that are really more hard rock influenced than metal into prog metal just to save yourself from having to... I dunno, then I guess that's up to you. I mean there's far more yardbirds and who and zep influence in all three of the examples you posted than there is of influence from Sabbath, Rainbow, or Priest.

Wikipedia disagrees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spectre_Within
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Technology

Personally, I couldn't say. All I can say is I guarantee theres a tiny band somewhere that pre-dates both of these.

[Rapt0r]

sure is arguing pointless **** that changes absolutely nothing.

[Angevil]

I believe I was the first to have "launched" the spastic ink in FOF, with the my AH2.

[vedicardi]

Wikipedia disagrees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spectre_Within
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Technology

Personally, I couldn't say. All I can say is I guarantee theres a tiny band somewhere that pre-dates both of these.

Voivod's first album is extremely prog rock, and edges on doom metal at points. Actually listen to tracks like "Nuclear War," "Black City," "Warriors of Ice," " and/or "Live for Violence," from Voivod's 1984 "War and Pain" and it's extremely clear that it isn't a thrash or speed metal album, though it has heavy roots in pre-thrash speed metal like Venom. It's prog metal at it's inception with a dose of doom and thrash. Simply look at the songs the band went on to cover (including King Crimson and Pink Floyd) and it's pretty clear where they were coming from, particularly in Piggy's guitar playing style which involved odd jazz chords, etc.