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Postby CapriRS302 » Mon May 21, 2007 7:03 pm

I was just looking to pick up one of these

http://www.scavino.it/behringer_iaxe393.htm (any opinions?)

and I was wondering, using one of these, or a usb converter to run your guitar's signal into your computer, couldn't some software be written that would turn certain tones into keystrokes? Then couldn't those keystrokes be used in FoF?


Or am I just an idiot with too much time on his hands?
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Postby yogsothoth » Mon May 21, 2007 7:07 pm

i was going to do that to my AX-400 way back when (search the AX project), but no one wanted me too. it was a nice guitar, so they all said no. lol.
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Postby HeruLuingul » Mon May 21, 2007 8:22 pm

CapriRS302 wrote:I was just looking to pick up one of these

http://www.scavino.it/behringer_iaxe393.htm (any opinions?)

and I was wondering, using one of these, or a usb converter to run your guitar's signal into your computer, couldn't some software be written that would turn certain tones into keystrokes? Then couldn't those keystrokes be used in FoF?


Or am I just an idiot with too much time on his hands?

I believe we've been over this before, and no-one wants to bother figuring out the software necessary to do it.
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Postby yogsothoth » Mon May 21, 2007 8:39 pm

its actually kind of easy (depends on knowledge)
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Postby carbonated_turtle » Tue May 22, 2007 1:01 am

You could also consider buying a midi guitar pickup and going from there.

http://home.epix.net/~joelc/rmc.html

The only question is does anybody know how to get a midi controller to trigger joystick buttons? I have an M-Audio O2 USB midi keyboard that I'm going to test this that. I'm sure there must be a way to do it. And ya I'm gonna go Google it now but if anybody does know a way I'd love to hear about it.
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Postby Clayman » Tue May 22, 2007 6:47 am

I`ve tried to make the game recognize my Fender J-Bass.
There is actully three ways:
1)Use hell of a software to convert the sound to midi than emulate the midi card and send the converted singal there. then convert midi to keystroke and then realize that the latency is way too big. And more than this FOF has a strange mechanism of detecting key presses. Doesn`t work.
2)Write a software that does on-the-fly converting of the sound. Ultrastar karaoke game does this pretty well, at least for voice. But I don`t how it works and it`s pretty messy.
3)Use midi pick-ups and face all the problems from the 1)

That are all the ideas I have. And I`ll stick to keyboard:)
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Postby MichallusTG » Tue May 22, 2007 7:54 am

Clayman,
Using MIDI pickup you would only need a software that changes certain MIDI sounds to keystrokes. This way I have played FoF using JoyToKey on one gamepad (I know playing FoF on a gamepad is suicide, but nevertheless I did, and even got four stars on the supaeasy Smoke On The Water =p) and got really minimal lag. Only remember about not setting FoF process on higher than normal priority, or setting it along with the converting software and... and now, we have to find the software that changes MIDI to keystrokes. Or maybe some Python gurus would make it for us - http://www.mxm.dk/products/public/pythonmidi and http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/ ?
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Postby raptor jesus » Tue May 22, 2007 9:32 am

@yogsothoth - You were going to destroy your guitar. His guitar is already USB

How would this work for chords? Seems like too much work for something thats not needed.
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Postby distedriff » Tue May 22, 2007 3:36 pm

It´s not so hard with a midi guitar, a python midi pack(http://www.mxm.dk/products/public/pythonmidi) and some pythhon knowledge.
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Postby syberdave » Tue May 22, 2007 3:46 pm

distedriff wrote:It´s not so hard with a midi guitar, a python midi pack(http://www.mxm.dk/products/public/pythonmidi) and some pythhon knowledge.

That lib is for reading/writing files only.

Currently it cannot read and write to midi ports. So no real time event handling is possible.
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Postby raptor jesus » Tue May 22, 2007 4:17 pm

Still, there is no easy way to have chords to work.
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Postby raph666 » Tue May 22, 2007 6:00 pm

we only would have to cover up all chords situation...but again... I could do this sound analysis for my guitar but would it work with all yours?? (I would try to do this using Max/MSP, since the runtime is free everyone could use the patch) it would requires expert playing to get the exact sounds and all...midi pickup seems a good idea... with glovePIE you can make scripts to map midi inputs
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Postby CapriRS302 » Tue May 22, 2007 7:59 pm

If any of you are interested, I just bought one of these brand new for $68. That's dirty cheap, even for a base model bottom of the line guitar, much less one with the USB connection built in. Here is the link...

http://www.compusa.com/product...._Guitar

I don't know if it was a typo or what, but NOBODY else seems to be selling this for less than $119 plus shipping.

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